Yesterday I taught a one on one with a White guy from Switzerland that lives in China and speaks Mandarin. Random huh?
One of his biggest problems was coming off as too “alpha” when entering Asian sets. As some of you guys may have noticed, groups of Asians usually are very protective of their girls. Instead, I taught him how to work the social circle and go in from there. We got there early, talked to the Promoters got to know them. Then we used the social proof from them to meet some random guys who were in a group with a smoking hot tall Japanese girl and a really cute Korean girl.
We were in, and for the rest of the night I was with the Korean girl laying down on the sofa and the student was right next to me with the Japanese girl. The two guys they were with…well, they were there too, but minus the girls.
These are the types of Japanese girls he loved, and he got a taller, hotter version of her! Good job!
The student had bought the audio course and new quick start up guide e-Book that comes free with it, and used the tactics and techniques to hook up with a gorgeous, smart and sweet Japanese girl. Congratulations man!
Even a lot of Asian guys I’ve met have a hard time hooking up with Asian girls, and I always thought WTF Man! It’s supposed to be easier! But I understand where they come from, since before I figured out the method to get in with the girl and make her chase you and the friends accept you, it was hard for me too. But now it’s a piece of freaking cake. Check out the website for more details.
My friend David (the asian rake) has some amazing tips on how to date while being asian. I think his program is the power of being asian.
good stuff.
B
Johnny,
If you could clarify a few things, that would be great. This is actually a bit complicated topic, in my opinion.
Now, the Asian girls born, raised, and living in Asia, and the Asian girls raised in a Western society are two different creatures. Sure, they both tend to have the same temperament, value system, attitude toward life, and social-circle behavior, which all run in the blood, but they are socially conditioned in two different places and cultures. Besides, one speaks an Asian language, and another speaks, hopefully, English. The Asians born and raised in a Western society who never left his or her birth country really have no idea how different the native Asians and their cultures really are. I certainly wouldn’t equate the Asian Americans to the Asians: at the minimum, one speaks English and another doesn’t. Besides, the Asians who were bold and capable enough to leave their native country tend to be more elite and adventurous than the average Asians; sorry to be blunt, but it’s true — I’ve experienced enough average Asians in Asian countries to be sure of it.
My bet is that an Asian American dude — or any race of anybody conditioned in Western culture — would probably have a drastically different pickup experience running the game in the actual Asian countries (i.e. China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc..) than in a Western country, say the U.S.
…A bit about gaming in an Asian country in its native language…
Being a one-quarter North Korean and three-quarters South Korean who spent susbtantial part of his childhood in South Korea with enough drama in his family for being a ‘mixed’ family, I know my chance at gaming a native Korean girl in Korea goes up far higher by speaking Korean and tuning and tweaking my DHV materials to the ideosynchrocies and culture of that country.
If I were to game in any other Asian country, my options would be limited to girls who can at least understand and speak some English and who would be interested in doing that (a retarded situation for any guy since his ability to communicate and convey his personality virtually drops to zero, which blocks his ability to pickup ‘quality’ women in the highest eschelon of the society). Speaking the same language, I believe, is a big thing, if not the single most decisive factor.
The problem with gaming in a foreign language — especially an Asian language — is that it takes an inordinate amount of effort to write and internalize DHV materials in a different language and culture. No, you can’t literally translate the materials you use in the U.S. — it won’t make sense. Yes, the principles of the pickup stays the same — heck, it’s been the same throughout the entire humanity, including being an alpha male exuding confidence and constantly leading and communicating — you don’t want to be a douchebag who just sit there and say nothing with nervous ticks, but the details change drastically. Angling and presentation of yourself becomes drastically different than while gaming in the U.S.
I have some good memories of chasing girls in elementry school and middle school in South Korea; due to the high social restriction, exchanging notes, phone calls, holding hands, and boldly going for a kiss were the furthest you could go in that country at that age. Really bold and insane ones had some sexual experiences in high school, some of whom I knew personally. They couldn’t limit sex among youngsters even in a traditional, restrictive, and frankly backward Asian country. LOL. In any case, back then I did not have the hurdle of being a foreigner; now, if I visit that country, I’m perceived as a foreigner because I’m not within their societal system, which I have to do some work to overcome. Certainly, I wouldn’t want to angle my presence there as a tourist who’s there to pickup and score as many attractive girls as possible.
Anyhow, if the target can’t understand what you’re saying, your gaming ability becomes limited. Besides, the locals perceive it as a retarded thing to insist speaking in English when you know the native language, and of that ethnicity — most can neither understand nor speak English anyway, although the Koreans I’ve encounted didn’t think I was really Korean because I had drastically different mannerisms and attitudes — the Asian-American experience in their ethnic country that we all know. Some Koreans even asked me if I’m a foreigner in Korean, which I thought was funny, because I don’t look much like an average Korean and my Korean was so heavily accented and all, which of course was an execuse and opportunity to talk some about myself. I had to culturally calibrate myself as well.
…Now, back to the whole point…
My question is, those Korean and Japanese girls you’ve gamed, where did you game them? In the U.S.? Were they Asian American girls who spoke perfect English, or FoBs (fresh-off-the-boat) or even tourists?
Are you talking about gaming the westernized Asian girls in a western country or the native Asian girls in a native country, or both? Do you think there is a difference or not? Personally, I think Korean-American/European and Japanese-American/European girls should be differenciated from the native Korean and Japanese girls for all practical purposes.
Personally, I did notice drastic differences; I felt they were different as if they were two different kinds of women. there were numerous factors. speaking a foreign language vs. native language to the target, cultural tweaks, the differences in the ways the girls perceive the world and their stage in life, grounding — are you a tourist or are you there for a business?, the drastic differences in social norms, and so on. Sure, in the U.S., it’s fun having a cute, petite, and all-so-sensual Asian “American” girl with the obvious envy of the white or any other dudes around you, but I wouldn’t say gaming an Asian American girl is necessarily more difficult or easier than gaming any other Amerian girl. However, gaming a native Asian girl in her native country requires far more efforts: language, culture, and grounding (why are you there and who the hell are you in that society?) are the three most significant hurdles to overcome.
Gaming the Asian American girls in the U.S. might require some tweaking, simply because she’s Asian, but I believe it’s not as far-fetched as gaming the native Asian girls in their native countries. (I always thought it’s funny, and even pathetic, for an Asian American dude to game a native Asian girl in an Asian country speaking English; no different than a sex-starved American white dude trying to pickup latino girls in south America in English, which sends the all the wrong message of “I can’t attract girls/women in my own country”. Do you know anyone like that?)
I think gaming the Asian “American” girls in the U.S. who were raised in the U.S. and speaks flawless English is different than gaming the native Asian girls in their native country, whether you speak the local language or not. Would you agree or not? and why? Have you ever tried to game Taiwanese girls in Taiwan in Chinese?
At least my experience was different. Heck, even the Asian American girls feel subtly different depending on thier ethnicity. I’ve noticed that Chinese American girls, Korean American girls, Japanese American girls, Vietnamese American girls, Philiphino American girls all think and behave differently, some more sexual than the other group, some more aggressive, some more docile, they all feel different to me, etc. (look different too, if you’re able to notice that) Now, imagine the differences in the native Asian girls in their home territories with all the social conditioning and restrictions of their ethnic countries.
By the way, just a word of caution for those lost souls. Not all Asian girls are desirable or potentially good mates just because they’re ‘Asian,’ the same as not every white girl being desirable simply because she’s white. I’m astounded how so many guys are totally wrong on this one, whether he’s an Asian or not. The most misguided ones are the white dudes who dreams of this submissive, docile Asian girl fantasy-figure. Yeah, right. Trust me: I’ve had far more experiences with Asian women than you, I’ve seen and interacted with far more Asian women than you, and I know far more about Asian history, culture, and women. If you marry an Asian woman with that attitude and expectation, you’ll end up paying dearly. I’ve seen enough white dudes who did pay with his life for the exactly anticipated reasons. Look at who the person is first-and-foremost; the cultural and temperamental differences only complicate the situation.
Adventure, excellent post. You understand something that a lot of guys don’t….that there are multiple “types” of Asian girls, depending on if they’re traditional/fobs/living in asia vs. westernised Asian girls, also it changes if they are very westernized.
In the Asian Dating Method I break down the four types of Asian girls and how to go about approaching and hooking up with each type.
This is something that most guys complain, saying I complicated things too much, however as you already know and stated in your comment, Asian girls really are different depending on what type they are, and they really are that complicated.
http://www.AsianDatingMethod.com
Johhny!
It was good to meet you at the Summit!
Man, what an exhausting couple of days!
This student that you taught, that wouldn’t be my buddy Mike, would it? :D
It was quite amazing to see Mike go from a nearly complete AFC to something to behold during Vince’s 7-day camp.
And, if it wasn’t Mike, sounds just like him. :D
Al
P.S. Thanks for all the compliments during Summit. You were great!
Hi Johnny
Is this the same as How to hook up with asian girls program you have before?
Cheers
David
Yeah, Asian girls have this cool mystique to them. Props to homeboy.
David,
The Asian Dating Method is the version 2 of the how to hook up with asian girl product. Instead of a single dvd, which was kinda boring to watch since it was seminar style, we ripped it into a Mp3 audio which you can listen to anywhere. Unique to the Asian Dating Method is the eBook, which is 100% totally new. That has all the openers and the techniques in it, transforming it from a philosophy to a step by step method.
Hi Johnny,
Your Asian Dating Method is definetly THE resource for gaming Asian girls. I got your original dvd (the seminar one) a long time ago and at first I was kinda thrown off, because some of it conflicted with standard PUA methods. I really listened to your advice though and it’s spot on and succint.
Your story about coming on too Alpha is something I can relate to 100%. I think a lot of Western guys, don’t realize that they come on way too strong even if they think they are being indirect. Your dvd was a great help with overcoming this.
I’ve also been living in Thailand for a while now, so it’s interesting to read your blogs from there.
Keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Jack
i would love to marry asian women eventhough they are not as sexy as western women. asian women have great manners and prioritizes the family so much “‘,