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A PUA is by definition a loser.  Forums are a waste of time.

A PUA is by definition a loser. Forums are a waste of time.

Written by Johnny Wolf

Topics: Secrets

A PUA is by definition a loser. Girls know that, guys know that, and laugh at guys who inspire to be one. However, learning how to be good with women is a right that men should have and a practice that I encourage. More on that later.

PUA Forums are for losers. I don’t talk about this much, but I haven’t actively visited any internet forum for over 3 years now.

Fast Seduction, RSD Nation, SoSauve.net, Pick Up Artist Forum, PUA Forum, Casanova Crew, and all of the Lair Forums are all largely a waste of time. There are a few good articles written on there, and if you really want to use your time wisely, read the “best of stickys” then delete your account.

All forums are a place for guys to feel like they are a part of something cool and have friends without doing it in real life. Some are there to look for the next big magic bullet, or to impress other guys and build their own reputation. You cannot trust the advice on there since most of it has never been tested and the guy writing it is someone with 976 posts but has never had a girlfriend.

The live meetings however, thrown by your local lair, Casanova Crew, or the new Project: Hollywood are worth attending since you get to meet people in real life. It’s easy for a guy who hides behind his computer to say he is great with women and write lay reports, but meeting a guy in person can tell you a lot about who he is.

So why is Johnny Wolf still a part of the Pick Up Artist Community?

For every 9 wannabe PUAs that I come across, there is 1 guy that I genuinely want to help. Life is fucked up, the nice guy, who has a great education, a good job, is trustworthy, reliable, and good natured, doesn’t get the girl. He ends up being 28 single, never really had a girlfriend, can’t approach girls, and ends up either single, or worst, settling for some girl that he doesn’t even want to be with.

The only reason why I continue to teach bootcamps and don’t just leave the PUA Community entirely is because the students that come to me genuinely want to be better men and need my help. During one of my last bootcamps one of my students wrote this review which you can find here:

http://www.abcsofattraction.com/community/reviews-testimonials-f42/bootcamp-review-las-vegas-september-9-2011-t6176.html

Introduction:
Hi, my name is Chris Pham; I haven’t given myself a PUA name like some people did….yet. I’m 26 years old, and I’m Vietnamese. I have a college degree in Computer Science. And, most importantly, I had little experience with women; basically, I had a bunch of oneitis’s, meaning I got attached to the nearest girl in my social circle. This happened a lot over the years. I’ve had a oneitis with my friend. We we’re friends since high school, but she wasn’t interested, and long story short, after 7 years of friendship, we are no longer friends, sadly. Experiences like these is what drove me into the pickup game.

Why I decided to do the boot camp:
I didn’t decide on my own. My brother-in-law, who I consider to be my flesh-and-blood brother, and is also white haha, signed me up to this boot camp. We actually got interested in the game two years ago when he introduced me to Neil Strauss’s The Game. My brother asked me if I wanted to do it. I said, “Yes”. I don’t know why I agreed, because I’ve always had severe approach anxiety, and every time we talked about approaching girls or going to a boot camp, my heart would start beating fast, and I felt like I would die at that moment. But, that was one side of me, my weaker side; the other side of me was tired of the way things were going with my love life, and I wanted to be able to get with the girl I truly wanted. I also wanted to gain something else, confidence. It wasn’t just my relationship with women that suffered, it was everything else in my life; I was deathly afraid to try new things, such as Salsa dancing or Mixed Martial Arts, because I didn’t think I was good enough, and I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to socialize with those kind of people. I was afraid I was going to be that weird guy. That is why I decided to do this boot camp. I needed this.

About the ABC’s of Attraction structure and classroom education:
Before doing this boot camp, I’ve read “The Game”, and studied material ONLY from Neil Strauss and Mystery, since they were the stars in that book. So, here’s my advice, put everything you know about pickup, and put it aside, because it will only get in the way during the classroom lectures. You can reference them for material later on, but I think you need a clean slate in your mind to make room to establish a new foundation and for new material.

I loved the way the material was organized. Every topic, whether it was openers, number-closing, kiss-closing, or any part of the material, were separated into logical pieces, so that it was easier to analyze and understand. Before the boot camp, I tried a few canned openers, and I understood the general idea behind them, but I wasn’t fully sure how and why they worked. The structure of the material allowed me analyze each piece of a routine, and when I understood how one worked, it was easier for me to create and experiment with my own material. I also like how efficient the ABC’s of Attraction structure is; it seems like everything I learned about pickup has been streamlined to be efficient and effective. Basically, all the routines that had less than a 95 percent success rate have been taken out. I’m pretty sure I have A.D.D., since going to college for my Computer Science degree was pretty tough; I always had trouble grasping topics, but the structure of this material allowed me to grasp the concepts easily.

The classroom lecture was a must. I could read all the material in the world, but there were always some blanks to fill, which I could’ve done by going out and experimenting myself or have the instructors fill in those blanks for me. I prefer the instructors since having someone there who’s been through the same struggles, felt more personal, and through sharing his experiences, helped me get a better grasp on the topics. There are tons of material to go over, and you may not get through it all in those two or three days of the boot camp, but the instructors go over the core fundamentals. They go through each topic in-depth from opening a set to f-closing. In my opinion, you don’t need to go through and learn every single thing. What I needed was to build my foundation in each topic, which I can certainly did in those three days. And, once you build that foundation, then you can go over the extra material. There were also the drills that you had to do for each topicl. I thought this was one of the most important parts of the lecture, and, also, good practice of the material. I am very satisified how the material and lecture was setup.

About your instructor Johnny Wolf, and intern-approach coach Ben J. – Instruction, field work and demoing:
I love Johnny Wolf and Ben J., no homo! Haha! You know what I thought before I met Johnny? Johnny has been teaching for several years now, and he’s taught so many students, so I thought I was just another student to him, at least that’s how it was when I went to school for Computer Science. I was wrong. Johnny cared about me, and he really wanted me to succeed. Ben J. was awesome; he always made sure I kept my head high. They explained everything slowly and clearly. If I had a question about a topic we talked about already, they were happy to answer it. I mentioned previously I have minor ADD, I’m also a slow learner. So, when they lectured, or when I had to practice my material in front of them, I would sometimes forget what I had to say or what I had to do, but they were very patient with me and helped me through it. I appreciated that very much.

There was also some role play we did for everything we learned that day before we went out, where one of them would pretend to be a girl, and I had to run my routines on them. It was pretty amusing, but it was a good warm up, and learning experience. Doing these two or three times actually improved my improv skills. They were pretty accurate in portraying the women in the clubs, since they had so much experience with women.

While on the field, I would go around doing my sets. After every set Johnny and Ben would give me input on what I did wrong and what I needed to do; I lost a lot of sets, which was expected of me, but they reassured me that it was all right, and pushed me to keep going. If I needed a break, I chilled with them for a while to relax, and they were cool with that. It also gave me to time to reevaluate my strategies. That same night, I got two phone numbers from girls I really connected with, and yes, they were very cute. I was happy! I’ve never gotten a girl’s phone number before. All those sets that I lost, I forgot about them; they didn’t matter. Johnny and Ben pushed you, but they’ll only push you so much; you have to do the work. Johnny and Ben are great guys, and I didn’t want to let them down. It was that reason that I barely had approach anxiety; I had some, but it was manageable. I even got to watch them in action. Before the boot camp, I’ve never seen a PUA at work, only on Youtube and other videos. I know Ben is just an intern, but after seeing him in the field, they need to promote him to PUA haha! Johnny and Ben are the real deal. Anyway, I was able to watch and analyze them, and they did exactly what they taught me in the lecture. I knew for sure these tactics worked.

Was it worth the money and would you recommend it to others?:
After looking back at all I’ve done in those three days, then looking at myself and seeing how much I’ve changed since I signed up for the boot camp, this was totally worth it. I definitely recommend this to others who really want to change their lives. I’ll be honest, I wanted to quit before I even went to the boot camp because I was so nervous, and scared. I was so close to calling in and quitting so many times. Then I remember Johnny saying “…it’s easier to quit.”, then I remembered what my social life was like before I signed up. So, I forced myself to keep pushing through, and I’m so happy I stayed with it. This is the first time I felt pain like this, pushed through, and come out the other side. I’m very happy with myself because I now know first hand that you HAVE to experience the pain before you get to the pleasure with whatever goal you are trying to achieve. Pain is nothing compared to the results, and now I have enough confidence to try those activities I’ve been putting off. I know I have some work to do, but my life is already a lot better. I would recommend this to anybody, no matter what social level you are; you can be a person that’s never talked to a girl, held hands with a girl, or never had a girlfriend, sign up for a boot camp. Thanks Johnny and Ben!”

Chris is one of those guys who would make a great boyfriend to a lucky girl. He is smart, kind, educated, has a good job, and would be good to his girlfriend or wife. However, because he is just a nice guy he is not attractive to women. This is why PUA Bootcamps exist, to give the nice guy a chance at love. This is why I teach PUA Bootcamps and tolerate the idiots that leave stupid comments and troll on internet forums.

Best wishes and good luck out there. It’s a crazy world.

Johnny Wolf

3 Comments Comments For This Post I'd Love to Hear Yours!

  1. TJ says:

    Are you doing any bootcamps this upcoming year or offer any coaching?

    I rewatched your video at the summit about sexually escalating. I love how you say that game is just that approach and learning how to push past getting sexual, then leave that shit because you’ve got a genuine connection with the girl and you are just enjoying life!

    I find it interesting you say you only want to help the guys that genuinely want to be helped, because the only reason I want to take your bootcamp is because I can tell you genuinely want to help us.

    I don’t see learning how to pickup women as just getting laid anymore, but essential for confidence and creating connections with people, which is the most important thing anyone could learn if they want to succeed and actually ENJOY life.

  2. Johnny Wolf says:

    Hey TJ, glad you liked the summit video about sexually escalating, and more importantly understood the core concept behind it. I agree still 100% what I said and taught in 2009, that good game is just learning how to approach girls with confidence, pushing yourself and the interaction sexual, and then dropping the bullshit and creating a real connection.

    As for upcoming bootcamps, aside from the 1 on 1 full moon party bootcamp in Thailand, I won’t be back in the U.S. to teach another bootcamp until June 2012. I’ll send you an email with more details.

    Warm regards, and Enjoy life, it is Grand.

    -Johnny Wolf

  3. Dan says:

    Yeah, I agree with TJ. I want to take a bootcamp with you too. You know why? Because you say that all PUAs are losers! That’s a truth I uncomfortably came to but now it just makes perfect sense. I loved the boundary pushing, courage building and awesome life making side of it all, but every website has some stupid ad for an ebook on openers. They all talk about techniques to get women and I get this weird image of a spider sitting quietly in his web ready to pounce.

    Hope to train with you someday and get some advice on being a better person. Till then I’m gonna keep living my normal person life :)


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"By the end of the night I was on fire and talked to almost every chick in the club. I’ve isolated and kiss closed for the first time ever in da club." -Derek (Sydney, Australia)


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